Geoff, ever the minimalist, finally replaces a pair of shoes, and our hosts discuss shoe cleaning services.
After searching for a great simplistic all-rounder shoe, Geoff finally replaces a pair. On the other hand, Georgie is a fan of Rollie’s patterned and colourful shoes.
Georgie 0:00
George, Hey everybody. Welcome back to another episode of toast and roast. I'm your co host, Georgie, and I'm here with Geoff. Hello. What are
Geoff 0:21
we talking about today? I don't know. Have
Georgie 0:24
you got any hot takes, even if it's a tiny hot take?
Geoff 0:33
Well, people really like to easily. I recently replaced my desk pad with a faux leather pad. Yeah, because it's easier to clean, because I used to have a fabric based one, yeah, and people really like this faux leather for like, it's esthetically nicer than a cloth one. But my mouse has this kind of sticking feel whenever I go across them. This
Georgie 1:06
is why I should use its leather.
Geoff 1:08
Yeah, I should use so I was thinking. I was thinking of just getting a really small mouse pad to go on top of this. I don't know. I don't know it's just for my mouse, but maybe, maybe it matters, maybe it doesn't. I feel
Georgie 1:27
like I don't know how to use a mouse anymore.
Geoff 1:32
Oh, really, that's a track pad. Track pad.
Georgie 1:36
Yeah, I just, I could never find a mouse that was, like, comfortable. They all just fucking sucked. And actually, before I transitioned to a track pad, I used a left handed mouse. I know that sounds really stupid. I'm right handed, but, like, I just, I don't know, it's very it was a very long time ago, like, I'm gonna say, nine years ago. I was using was last time using a mouse. And this is the kind of shit they would like fool people. They come to my computer and then they try and use my mouse and like, it's left handed. And it was just very, very funny, because the secondary click with the opposite. And then they told me later they'd feel like a fool going back to their own computer and then realizing that it's too funny, it's too funny. It's too funny. It's too funny.
Geoff 2:23
Actually, you know what else was? It's a bit controversial. Yeah, no, I think about it. I've changed from my vessis, oh
Georgie 2:34
moment. I think we need a fucking moment.
Geoff 2:36
Yeah, yeah. I dropped my vessis how we like, yeah recently, or it was in Japan. Roback
Unknown Speaker 2:43
am no joke, except
Georgie 2:44
for people who are not yet, like, acquainted with it. Versus, are this brand of waterproof shoe
Geoff 2:53
that laceless shoes as well. What was that the lace Yeah, yeah, versus
Georgie 3:01
and Geoff got me onto them as well. Like, say, like, three years ago. Like that,
Speaker 1 3:07
the sizing, this is how long pods been. I remember because
Georgie 3:11
it was like, kind of post COVID ish, or like, lockdown kind of thing. I can't remember, but I remember I had a pair of just the cute ass sneakers. And
Geoff 3:26
are they actually called the cute? No, I
Georgie 3:29
don't know. Are they not? Yeah, that was at the weekend. They were real cute. I had the light blue one, obviously. And I even wore them when I hike once, but I got the sizing kind of fucked, so I couldn't wear them with the actual sole. It came thing with, what do you call it? The insole that came with. But I was fine. I wore them with my orthotics instead. And yeah, they were hella cute. I wouldn't recommend them going hiking with them, because it was slippy.
Speaker 1 3:57
Yeah, I think we've also talked about what's a hike and what's a hike,
Geoff 4:04
hike, what's what's a Hike? Hike, yeah, a
Georgie 4:07
hike like you are climbing, you are, you know, you can't, like, have your phone in your pocket.
Geoff 4:14
My bar for a Hike. Hike has kind of risen to if you need an oxygen tank or if the air thins. Ends hike. Hi, hike.
Georgie 4:24
So I guess what I'm saying is that the hike I was doing is probably more of a trail with some steps. I don't know what grade it would be, maybe grade two or whatever. Like, I'd say it was like one, one grade up from something that is like wheelchair. So
Geoff 4:41
you were a little bit out of breath, not even, oh, okay, so it is, it's
Georgie 4:47
right, like, so you probably wouldn't call it a hike,
Geoff 4:52
but anyway, a walk, Bush, walking, trekking,
Georgie 4:55
yeah, I don't know. So obviously you can't submerge your entire foot into. Water with these shoes, but you can walk around and if it's raining, your shoes won't get wet and then soak into your socks, etc. And I feel like that was the most appealing and very useful characteristic for me, because I don't know, in Sydney, the rain is sometimes really bullshit. And I just like, sometimes you think it's not so bad, and like, you're not getting wet because you have an umbrella, but your shoes get wet, and then suddenly, like, your sock starts to feel damp, even if you're not super soaked. And so that's where I found these shoes were really good. And I had them for a good while too. Yeah,
Geoff 5:40
I see you don't have them. I don't have
Georgie 5:41
any more, no, because, because I got the sizing wrong, and then the it was quite expensive to buy another pair, etc.
Geoff 5:49
Yeah, these, these flats, are $200 yeah, I just cannot fathom a $200 I mean, I bought them before, but yeah, I mean, not the flats. I think I
Georgie 6:01
also stopped, like, feeling like I needed the waterproof factor as much. I don't know why. Maybe I just just went and bought boots instead of whatever. Because, like most people, to solve this issue, would go and buy a gumboot or and they, they are, there are gumboot brands now that are fashionable. So, yeah,
Geoff 6:24
it was so funny when I saw the gumboot fashion come in, come into, coming to the office, yeah. And I was like, Really, are gumboots now fashionable? I don't understand. Oh no. I
Georgie 6:37
mean, I don't have any, you know, again, it's like, we're probably in a climate where we're not gonna experience like huge ass rainy days too much like
Geoff 6:50
this one. This one's from, like, Bunnings or something. Where's the Bunnings?
Georgie 6:57
Mary, this is merry people. Is the fashionable one.
Geoff 7:01
So this is a Bunnings one. Let's do a side by side comparison. Mary people garden boot, all right? And this, this is a fashionable one. I know people can't see these, but think, oh, okay, so tall boots. I just, they
Georgie 7:21
still look like, okay, no offense, they still look like you're on a bomb. Yeah, the ankle boots are a little bit cuter.
Geoff 7:30
It screams like, I think the, I think a TV show made a joke about hobo chic, yeah?
Speaker 1 7:39
Like wearing trash bags bohemian. But, like, bad, yeah,
Geoff 7:43
but bad. And I re and then I remember, actually, I think I saw this mid calf boots as well. Yeah, mid calf or tall boots. Like, why? Why is it in fashion? In all honesty,
Georgie 7:55
mid calf does not look good on everyone. Just it's a length of boot that is actually a little bit awkward. I know,
Geoff 8:07
because these are my ankle boots are more rugged more these ankle boots are more rugged versions of boots, like actual, like your fashion boots? Yes, yeah. Well,
Georgie 8:20
then you got these bright ones so it, I don't know the, I still think that these ones are fashionable, the ankle boots, yeah,
Geoff 8:33
you just cut them down to size. And Bob's your uncle. Anyways, so you have
Unknown Speaker 8:38
transitioned away or moved on, yeah, yeah.
Geoff 8:42
I mean, technically I moved back. So here's my shoe, here's, here's my history of shoes. Wait
Georgie 8:48
from when, how far family from
Geoff 8:53
university, okay, maybe high school, the university is plus, yeah, 20 plus years ago, right? So I think I think high school was basic, the basic, like, leather shoe,
Unknown Speaker 9:06
yeah, but this is a unicorn, yeah. Like,
Geoff 9:10
what? What did I use for regular wear casual, you know, other than sneakers or something like that, I can actually remember. We need to know, were you at Converse? Yes, apparently, apparently, there are styles of six sneakers, like 8860 sneakers, or whatever. Anyways, so I wore Converse. Yes, as early as I can remember was my first person like personal shoe, like, I don't know, casual shoot and and then I think when vans and converse got, like, merged on what fans, what? No,
Georgie 9:50
they both are separate fans. So I started with Converse, and then I converted to van. But I actually, like in my 20s,
Geoff 10:07
wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. Oh, maybe I didn't actually wear vans. Did you wear those, right? I think I wore, I wore, I wore, I wore some version of the vans. But nowadays they're a little bit more sweaty. And I don't think
Georgie 10:23
they're not all sweaty. I know this because I have like, 10 pairs of
Unknown Speaker 10:27
Yeah, style. So I
Geoff 10:31
stuck with Converse for a while. As as you know, I'm a creature of habit, and, oh, I feel like I got these. They look like fancier van, fancier Converse. Yeah, I got one of these. Okay, so I transitioned to vans, but then I got really from from Vans. By the way, people only wear one pair of shoes for everything I do. So when my shoes die, I just buy another pair of shoes. I don't have any other pair of shoes, so think of the length of life as sort of like maybe 345, years. I just wear the converse every day until maybe the soul, yeah,
Speaker 2 11:13
you need to replace them a little bit more often than four years.
Geoff 11:18
Well, I've now got, I realized that this is why people have, some people, most people have multiple shoes for different occasions, so that, so that their their main shoe, like, they don't have a main shoe. You just, like, swap shoes, and then it prolongs the life of both choices. But at the end of
Georgie 11:36
the day, right? It doesn't, quote, unquote, prolong the life of the shoe. You have the shoe for longer because you're not stressing out, although, like, if you're wearing the same shoes, like seven days in a row, you are kind of like stressing out the materials with literally
Geoff 11:51
every Yeah, yeah. So I went to vans, and then after this, I went to Onitsuka Tigers. This is where I got really fashionable. This is what I my definition of fashion is on its good Tiger. So tempted in Japan to get another pair of these. But
Georgie 12:17
I always say people, no,
Geoff 12:22
they the fashion? Yes, I don't know. Anyways, I tried on some in Japan. In any case, surprises the Japanese brand. So then I went to onitsu ka Taiyo, and then I think from there I went to perhaps echo, right, yeah. So I got these ones, I'm pretty sure, because I got, like, I got my one of my promotion job, change promotions, whatever you want to call it. So I went, I went into like tech lead, or even senior to lead. So I was like, Echo. Echo seems like a good, a good upgrade from what I used to wear. I got a sneaker which was leather, so I got all of the leather stuff to go with it. I think it was more like, Yeah, this one. So I got a pretty casual looking one, and they were soft in their leather. And this was the first time I had, oh no, I think, I don't think this is the first time, but as an adult, as a no, I think the soul is white. I don't usually go for white souls, but now that I think about the converse and the fans, they're all white souls. Can't remember. No, yeah, I know not all, but all of mine are black and white, essentially. So then I moved away from the echo shoes, because I don't know what was it about the echo shoes, but I saw vessies, right? I got a discount on vessies, and I was like, waterproof. That means I don't have to upkeep the waterproofness of the leather shoe. For those who don't know, yeah, I think
Speaker 1 14:20
I remember, like, I don't have to worry about it. This is my only fucking shoe,
Geoff 14:25
yeah. And then I don't have the shoes anymore. I think it was because we had a mold problem in our in our closet, yeah. And then all of my leather shoes were just like, speckled with white mold, even my dress shoes, which I don't wear, obviously,
Georgie 14:48
I think, but it's just like,
Geoff 14:52
Well, yeah, I didn't think about that. Anyways, I threw them out, and then I got new dress shoes. And I was thinking, well. Oh, I still have my vessis right come Japan where I wore them. And the there was, there was quite a lot of rain. So I was like, Cool, got my vessies, no worries. And then it started to saturate prior
Georgie 15:18
to this date and going in Japan, had you tried to, had you been in that situation before, where they got very wet, or had you tried to wash them or clean them, or anything? Or no, no,
Geoff 15:31
okay, go on. So, so they were, how long at
Georgie 15:37
this point? How long had you
Geoff 15:41
podcast? Speed, three, five years.
Georgie 15:44
Also, you say we need Japan like re most recently,
Geoff 15:47
most recently. Oh, yeah, so you have not most recently. Okay, so
Georgie 15:51
the reason I'm saying I'm asking is because mine got a little bit dirty, not, not too long after I first got them, like, I don't know, maybe six months or something. And I was like, let me try and clean them, yeah, and so that means getting them wet, so I more or less kind of saturated them, and it took, like, probably two weeks to fully dry, or some crazy shit like that. And I was that was what kind of annoyed me. I'm like, yeah, they waterproof, but if you are out in the rain and it continues to rain, that's going to be a problem, because then they will never
Geoff 16:28
fucking try. Basically, yeah, yeah. So I don't know why, but I hadn't been out in the rain for that long. I guess this is the this is the nature of of being on holiday when you're out and about, right? And it starts to rain, and you decide to not go back to your hotel because you have a bunch of like, stuff to do, stuff planned, yeah? Then you just push through, right? Whereas, if you're home, you're like, fuck this rain, like, I'm gonna go home, yeah, and you're just basically going from work to home. But so this time it was, like, super saturated, and I felt water seeping in from, like, my heel, right the heel? Yeah, yeah. I was like, Wait, it's saturated on the top. Felt it from the bottom. So I was like, Is my soul kind of like because, because I like to, I mean, I like to walk heel to toe, and sometimes I don't do that very accurately, so I end up scuffing my heel. So my my shoe heels are very like a bit for wear, worse for wear. And like you mentioned before, these things don't have very good traction either way, like polished, polished, polished and anything polished concrete or whatever tile, they're pretty slippy. So I was like, huh, this is not too much, but it is a crack in the armor somewhere. And and my partner, hers were, um, hers were entire like her, hers, her socks were entirely drenched. Oh, so, so it wasn't holding up for her either. So, yeah, I was like, Okay, what do I do? Do I keep them and we, by the way, we actually put hair dryers in our shoes to dry them up overnight. We just full blasted them. It worked. It worked, yeah, but, but that's a
Speaker 1 18:37
shitty situation to be in. Yeah. So we were, we were in
Georgie 18:41
a similar situation. When you remember when there were floods in New Zealand? We were, we were there. Ah, it was like two years ago, some something like that, January between 2023 I think we'd arrived just off of these severe floods, and shoes just drench. Day one. Had to do the old, like drawing with the hair dryer kind of thing. But not fun. Yeah,
Geoff 19:10
yeah. So I was like, Okay. I mean, I don't know what difference it makes getting shoes in Japan or not, but it happened. So we were rained on at least three times, and the I think that's by the second time, I was thinking, You know what? Probably need some kind of new shoe when I get home. And so well, well, we were in a shopping district for what like on the last day of our Japan trip? Yeah, we're in the shopping district. You know, things like the 12 floor uni clothes, the 12 floor MUJI store and above. Abundance of choice, and I stumbled upon an echo store. So I walked into the echo store, and I'm like, You know what? It was pretty reliable to have leather shoe with water. It's, it's like, kind of naturally water resistant. Yeah, yeah, repellent. You do have to upkeep it in some in some way. But I mean, look, I
Georgie 20:26
don't even upkeep my leather shoes. I just, like, roast them and they're
Geoff 20:31
still good. That's true. So I went in and I was like, Okay, should I get the same shoes I hadn't. I actually couldn't remember if I got rid of my own original Echo shoes or not, but my partner assures me I did. So I went in and I was like, okay, so if I were to get this year again, like, I'll just get the same one. Yeah, the salesman was like, came up to me, and then he within, within five seconds of saying hi, he pitched me their new product. It was echo and Gore Tex. Ah,
Georgie 21:11
okay,
Geoff 21:13
so for people who don't know what Gore Tex is, is it a sneaker? Is it like it is it is a sneaker. It is a sneaker. So it's basically looks like it was, it was brand new. It basically looks like this, but, but gore tex involved. So for those who don't know what Gore Tex is, it's actually like a hiking brand, and they apparently have very rigorous testing. Yeah,
Georgie 21:43
can I interrupt you for a sec? So you, you walked in this store, was this on one of those days when it was like, already fucking, like, pelting rain and everything, okay, must be like you were probably looking for something with this weather.
Geoff 21:58
Yeah, I was. I was really surprised that, okay, that basically waterproof shoe, yeah, plus the leather. What was it looks like? Yeah, so my hiking
Georgie 22:12
boots, what boots they actually shoes? I think they have some Gore Tex, like you can get, yeah, hiking shoes with gore tex or not, there is, like, a people usually discuss, like, people who are super into hiking discuss like, whether Gore Tex is actually good or not for hiking shoes. And it's mostly because, like, if it's waterproof, your feet might just get fucking hot. Yeah? Like, it's just like, you know, how do you feel comfortable in these materials or
Geoff 22:44
whatever? Because so I also have gore tex hiking shoes. They're orange, but the Yeah, so the marrying of the echo comfort and the gore tex was really appealing to me. And I was like, wow, they really nailed, nailed it nailed me. But for those who don't know what Gore Tex is, it's basically a a brand that, what would you call it more close to? It's not even a brand. It's a type of material, slash waterproofing method. It's copyrighted. It's trademarked, yeah, it's
Georgie 23:28
like, what's that? Yeah, 10 cells certified,
Geoff 23:31
sort of, it's a certification,
Unknown Speaker 23:34
yeah, like,
Georgie 23:37
certified, whatever, bamboo ish, whatever stuff, yeah, yeah.
Geoff 23:41
It's like you go to like, yeah, it's certification. So if your if your shoe, material, clothing, whatever, goes through certain like tests and it passes, you can use their Gore Tex, like branding. It's kind of like hotels, I guess, because if, no, if you didn't know already, the Hiltons and all that kind of stuff are basically franchises. They just buy the name. So Gore Tex, they partnered with gore tex to make echo shoes, yeah, and I got something that looks like this, but more more in this style, like with the white, white, yeah, exactly that was my concern. It's like my souls are now really chunky, yeah. But they also sold me on insoles, so it is quite comfortable to wear, like, arch support and whatever, like, has a bump in the middle and it like, kind of like it's being orthotic or whatever, yeah, yeah. Like, if. Go orthotic. It's not, yeah, I don't need orthotics, but not prescribed as orthotic, yeah, yeah, yeah, not scientific or doctor related. Podiatrist. Anyways, like podiatrists, yeah, proved, yeah. Anyways, so I ended up buying them, and then, and then now I have cortex, Gore Tex, Echo shoes and yeah, so this solves my two problems. I do. I do. Rate them. I have to get used to tying laces again.
Unknown Speaker 25:40
Sorry, that's hilarious, yeah,
Geoff 25:46
but that was just such a such a nail in the nail in the coffin moment where they just sold me on, like ultra waterproof sneakers from a well known comfortable shoe company. I and I walked out with them. You wore them? Did you wear them? I walked them out. I walked out. Now I need to go clean them. I remember the only thought that went through my mind after buying them was, could I get these back in Australia for cheaper? Oh, and,
Georgie 26:23
and,
Geoff 26:25
turns out, I can't even buy them on the website. I can't, there's nothing. It's Japan exclusive. It's Japan exclusive. And I was just like, oh my god, I lucked out. I i So, so, yeah, that's, that's the evolution of my shoe. I realized that these look very similar to them, but because I wanted a white sole, and it doesn't have a white sole, then, yeah, you know, I win. And I didn't, I don't, it looks like this, but I don't have the GTX on the side, which I would definitely hate. Yeah, yeah. So that that is now I've gone kind of backwards, yeah, kind of full circle, kind of forward, kind of, yeah, yeah. I mean, at least I just like the fact that they're waterproof. Yeah, yes, I did know that echo is good. It was a very nice store, the inns. So these were three $50 that
Georgie 27:32
is wild dude. That is actually so expensive,
Geoff 27:37
yeah, yeah. I don't know if it includes the insole, because the install is $55 okay, so the in the I think it's, it was like 292 90, with the insole, push it over to maybe through 345 or 350 but hey, you know, you're on Holiday, and the money doesn't matter. So I'm hoping that with this kind of, like, type of shoe, it'll probably last me, yeah, help last longer. It is a thicker sole. It's like double the thickness of any sole, so it's gonna have a lot to wear through, and maybe I can go to echo and ask them to re solo for me, you know, maybe
Georgie 28:24
do they do? I've never, I don't know. Just think that they would, because they're that kind
Geoff 28:29
of, yeah, I mean, it's like, Maybe Apple warranty
Georgie 28:36
is like a re repair or something,
Geoff 28:39
Echo repairs, she repairs. Oh,
Georgie 28:50
not officially, maybe,
Geoff 28:54
yeah, maybe not. Oh, well, that's um, that's unfortunate, but I Yeah. See gore tex boots off of waterproof, wind proof protection. So it is comfortable. It is. I wore it on the plane, I think, yeah, wore it on the plane. Wasn't too dissimilar from the comfort that I would have in the vessis versus this. So like, my feet didn't feel like sweat, sweat and balls and stuffy or anything.
Georgie 29:26
That's a win.
Geoff 29:29
Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Maybe the vessis waterproofness and the thickness of the the fabric just makes it overall, a less comfortable shoe. Maybe, I don't know, either way, this has been good so far. Had no problems with slippiness, because it actually has bumps on the bottom shoe, you know,
Georgie 29:56
Oh, you mean, like, proper, like, grippy, kind of Yeah. Proper
Geoff 30:00
groupies, unlike vessi, is just like a pattern, yeah, pretty shiny, yeah. Anyways, onto the This Is this my shoe for the next four years, hopefully five, maybe. What do you? What shoes are you on now on, yeah, oh, you I also,
Georgie 30:25
I also buy shoes from Rolly, R, O, L, L, I, E, they're kind of known for their kind of loud shoes. They have a few different designs, but, like I started out wearing their Derby shoes, like the ones that you they look kind of formal, and you tie shoelaces, and then
Unknown Speaker 30:46
they had a
Geoff 30:48
slip on like the preppy the preppy shoes, yeah,
Georgie 30:50
they had a slip on sneaker, but now I don't know if they still have it. And then I also bought boots from them, which have been very good. Oh, my God, I'm so annoyed. I wish, I wish I'd kind of stockpiled the boots, because the boots are so good. Recently I bought the pace sneaker.
Unknown Speaker 31:13
Wow. Super soft and nice.
Georgie 31:17
So, yeah,
Geoff 31:20
they do look quite fashion. Yeah, the vans even look like their pattern would be more grippy. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 31:29
the vans,
Geoff 31:30
I think, I think the problem with the super long time, I think the problem with the vessis is that it's more grooves than a grip pattern. I think
Unknown Speaker 31:43
so, yes. Like the amazing,
Geoff 31:48
yeah, they're more grooves. And then if you have a look at the vans,
Georgie 31:53
I even feel like the materials, yeah, material the vans is very, like, rubbery on the soul,
Geoff 32:02
yeah, maybe. Well, I am thinking, you know, if the, if the if the gore tex echos start getting a little bit uncomfortable, I'm like, I've got the noble sneakers so I can, just, like, fall back on those. Yeah, yeah. I've
Georgie 32:25
seen people wear like their clothes, but running shoes.
Oh, every day I got it, hey, they cute.
Geoff 32:35
I got a super non descript one,
Georgie 32:39
yeah. Cuz, fuck branding. Hate branding. Sell it. No, I saw like, the everyday sneaker or something that was like, Oh, you saw my actual running shoe.
Geoff 32:50
Yeah. Oh, I got this one. Oh, yeah. It does say noble on the back, on the front, but I feel like this is the least allowed ones for them. Yeah, I don't know how to clean them.
Georgie 33:05
Did you know that there is a place called sneaker laundry if you want them to be like, spick
Geoff 33:12
and spam? Yeah,
Georgie 33:13
I've yet to try them. I think it costs for a full clean and everything like, like the ultimate clean. I think it's $50 and a bit cheap you want, like, you know, but
Geoff 33:25
that's this, that's the cost of a car wash, if you think about it, is
Georgie 33:30
it? I thought like, if you go for a full car wash, it's like $100
Geoff 33:35
yeah, I guess I mean even 50% of a car wash, anyways. Oh, Martin Place, certainly Melbourne, CBD, Bangkok. Oh,
Georgie 33:46
Bangkok. But yeah, like the the before and after pictures are impressive. And so I'm like, I feel I should try this model with my my own sneakers. But I just haven't. I haven't bothered. And I'm also just like, $50 $50 I will buy a new pair of vans on sale.
Geoff 34:02
Oh, wait, I think, I think I got those shoes in the picture. Okay, I think they're on its guitar. Tigers, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1 34:16
how about if I try it, I will report back on the pod.
Geoff 34:22
Yeah, yeah, do. I will now go clean my leather shoes with my leather products that I have no idea where they are, so I'll go dig them up, give my leather new leather shoes a
Speaker 1 34:38
bit of it. I must say it is like I think you should I, I commend you for putting in the effort to maintain
Geoff 34:47
yourself. I've done, I've done, I've done, I've done the leather cleaning once I even have the have the paste or something that removes the scuffs from the. Yeah, yeah, whatever paste it is. So, yeah, yeah. I mean, I bought it on optimistically and again, once every six months, whip them out, maybe once every three years I worked them out. Ooh, bundle and save. Oh, three items, man, I didn't have 50 pairs of shoes. I do. I'm just like, I just want
Georgie 35:23
to pay someone to do it for me. I don't want to buy the fucking cleaning products because I'm
Geoff 35:26
ready to get Oh,
Georgie 35:29
yeah. What if you say yeah? What if you go to the shop and
Geoff 35:37
in store? Oh, these are all the products. Yeah, I guess so
Georgie 35:41
there's an in store button in the top right. Is that the one to like do a service you
Geoff 35:47
can't book it standard, clean $40 Oh, my God. Full exterior, clean $50 outsole, debris, laces, premium, clean one and two. Wait, wait, what standard clean and full exterior clean don't come together. Like, no,
Georgie 36:10
they're different. Like, standard is just like
Geoff 36:12
on the outside outsole laces,
Georgie 36:17
the outsole is just the fucking border American. Okay, and come on, let's face it, maces get gross, yeah?
Geoff 36:25
The the souls, the insoles for my, for my vessies, were so worse for wet, because you can see the toe imprints, yeah, so dark, yeah. And then when we dried it off. It was like, super crispy.
Georgie 36:43
Yeah, look. PSA, if you have insoles in your shoes, taking a look at them every now and then, because also sometimes just disgusting crap just gets in there, like, fucking hair between them, yeah? Which is, it's nice when they are removable, because then you can kind of give a bit of clean if they're not. Yeah, fucking know what disgusting crap is in there.
Geoff 37:06
It's like a keyboard. You can't Yeah,
Georgie 37:08
yeah, thanks to my mother fucking Apple keyboard. Like I there's no way I can see what the fuck is under there, but it's gross. We all know that. Yeah,
Geoff 37:18
it's like washing behind your ears. I That's such an old reference. Yeah, I recently I recall a one opening up in Burwood, not a sneaker laundry, but a sneaker cleaning place. I just, yeah, I just, like, I just thought they were like, a scam. Oh, yeah, who needs sneaker cleaning? Like, how much is started
Georgie 37:56
with that fucking what is it called? Like, the fly it Adidas added us sorry. Like, fucking I had, like, added us laceless, I think was the parleys or something. Oh, my God. I love those shoes so much. But then I wore down the sole so much. Like, you know how on the vessels, the grip is, like, those, like, it's, oh, what do you call it? Yeah,
Geoff 38:19
the triangles. But it was like, raised, yes, deboss, it's raised. Yeah,
Georgie 38:24
it's raised. So that's what the Adidas ones were. And basically it was almost completely smooth. That's how much I Oh,
Geoff 38:34
man, I did have lace like these, laces that you can replace, laces that you can replace your shoe laces with that are elastic so you can make them kind of, you know, slip on and slip off, laceless. I am tempted to try do it again for my echo shoes, just so that I don't have to do laces, but they come in a bit of a weird option. So you can do one of these. Yeah, you can do traditional laces, which are expense Bandy, but you can also get these, the ones
Georgie 39:20
that you can tighten. You can tighten. Like,
Geoff 39:23
no, I had, I had one of the, like, rubber ones. They're just brackets that, yeah, clip across, yeah.
Georgie 39:34
Are they stretchy as well?
Geoff 39:38
Yeah, yeah. So you can just, you just clip them across from hole to hole. They're not literal laces. They just hold things closer together with elasticity.
Georgie 39:49
And how do you Yeah, how do you rate them? Did you say you tried these ones?
Geoff 39:57
I try I tried them. And. Um, yeah. I'm not too sure how I felt about them. I'm not entirely sure why I got rid of them, yeah, but I'm gonna give it a go again and just record it on the pot so back, report back. I can, like, yeah, so I can really annoy the places. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sneaker podcast. But I am, I am a sneaker club to most people I've heard, I've heard compliments of one of my co workers, sneakers, and they just like, Oh, are those that model of sneaker? And I'm like, they just look like normal sneakers. What do you what do you like? There's a number for these sneakers, and it gets really popular. They're not Jordans or anything. They're just literal. Can I find them?
Georgie 40:54
I think there's a whole, there's a definitely a whole ass world.
Geoff 41:00
See these look like normal ass sneakers. Why are they? Why are they so recognizable? Because
Georgie 41:07
they look like, I feel like they look like some shit we were in the 90s or something like the style of it just looks like,
Geoff 41:16
yeah, I don't have no idea, but, yeah. So one of my co workers got complimented on this pattern.
Georgie 41:25
There are a lot of sneaker brands, and then I think within each sneaker brand, you've got people who are big fans, and they'll know every single like style, yeah,
Geoff 41:40
it's something like this. Alvie, yeah, I don't know either way it is. It is probably a niche this as as deep as as the keyboards so, but I was just really surprised that someone could recognize the sneakers even though they looked so generic, normal, generic, you know, something your like old Asian uncle would wear. It's
Georgie 42:17
because dad sneaker trend is like, still happening,
Unknown Speaker 42:21
like,
Georgie 42:24
like a dad,
Geoff 42:26
you know, you know, is pretty funny. My one of my one of my uncles was, like, if I had known holes in jeans were gonna be popular, I think it would have kept my jeans and sold them organic. Yeah, yeah. Just like, imagine building a business around that. Just have people wear jeans out naturally and then sell them after like they for a couple years. It's like aging wine, yeah, naturally, oh, man, you know what isn't aging? The end of this episode, no one never gets old. So you can, you can follow us nowhere on social media, but you can email us if you have hot takes or any commentary or corrections offended you with the generic ass sneakers, then please let us know. That's
Georgie 43:33
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Geoff 43:40
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Georgie 43:46
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Geoff 43:56
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